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    Rebels Edge · Wed, Jul 29, 2026

    The Market Just Punished a Winner

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    John and Pete Najarian discuss a broad market decline amid renewed U.S.–Iran tensions, rising oil prices, and uncertainty ahead of a Federal Reserve announcement. They contrast strong earnings-driven gains in GE HealthCare and Garmin with declines in Lennox and Vertiv, arguing that Vertiv’s prior rally may explain its selloff despite solid results and a raised outlook. The episode also includes an Immersed investment promotion and sports-business commentary.

    • Major indexes fell roughly 1%–1.5%, while WTI oil rose about 6%–7%; the hosts cited geopolitical tensions, AI-growth concerns, and Fed uncertainty.
    • The VIX approached 20, while a Kalshi prediction market showed a 9% probability of recession that year.
    • GE HealthCare rose approximately 12% after beating earnings and revenue expectations, reporting record organic growth, and reaffirming EPS guidance.
    • Garmin gained approximately 17% and reached a 52-week high after strong earnings; the hosts highlighted its fitness wearables and business diversification.
    • Lennox hit a 52-week low after missing revenue expectations and lowering guidance, despite growth in its climate-solutions business.
    • Vertiv fell roughly 14%–15% despite earnings and revenue beats and a raised full-year outlook. Pete attributed the reaction to elevated expectations following a 56% year-to-date rally and wanted unusual options activity before treating the decline as an opportunity.
    • The hosts promoted private company Immersed’s funding round and disclosed that they own shares and are paid consultants.
    • Sports coverage included JPMorgan’s reported Ohio State sponsorship, college-football playoff expansion, athlete compensation, and WNBA attendance.

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    1. Welcome back to the rebels edge. I'm John Nagarian. Pete joining shortly to describe for you exactly why the Dow Jones Industrials are down about 1 and a.5%. S&P closing in on a 1% drop and NASDAQ also about 1% lower. Why? Well,

    2. we'll have the answers to that and maybe even a little prediction market and sports on today's Rebels Edge. [music] >> [music]

    3. >> All right, Pete, what do you say? It ain't the last one of the week, but we're getting close.

    4. >> We're getting closer. And I'll tell you what, I'm liking the backdrop you've got there. That's pretty freaking phenomenal.

    5. >> Yeah, that backdrop, folks, is uh Circa, the largest sports book in the world.

    6. And uh Derek Stevens doesn't just want one largest sports book in the world, he wants two. So he has also the largest outdoor sports book in the world at Circa.

    7. >> You gota love it.

    8. >> So uh the Rebel Investor Club's going to be going out there to check it out, Pete.

    9. >> Probably in October or November. We'll finalize that maybe even today.

    10. >> Yeah, that'll be fun.

    11. >> Yeah.

    12. >> All right. Well, macro Pete, I'm gonna say, you know, the president of the United States decides, you know what?

    13. We're really going to hurt him tonight [laughter] because apparently Iran was able to launch a couple ballistic missiles last night, Pete. [clears throat] They got intercepted and didn't strike anything. No troops were injured or anything, but he's

    14. pretty upset with Iran for more or less breaking uh sort of truce. And so he says, "We're gonna make them pay tonight." And pay they are, I'm sure, but in the meantime, WTI is gonna mean we're going to pay more at the pump because it's up 6%.

    15. >> Yeah. And that's something everybody will pick on Trump about. I mean, you know, whoever the president is, let's just forget about that for a second. I mean, you know, with these tensions the way they are and they escalated again and now all of a sudden we're going after it. You know what? Uh, sometimes you got to suck it up a little bit. And you know what? crude oil. Uh yeah, it's

    16. up about 7% as a matter of fact with WTI. So pretty extreme move. Um but we also know it can come down pretty dag on rapidly as well. So u I think the the idea that we went right at them is probably the right decision quite frankly given given what's going on. By the way, the other thing that's also

    17. pulling us a little bit still is this whole AI is it slowing and all the rest of it. We also have a Fed day, John.

    18. There's some guys there that are trying to, you know, figure that out for the markets and there's other people who are just sitting on their hands. They're just saying, you know what, I don't want to touch it till we know what the heck war says. So, um, all of that as a backdrop, we'll know a lot more by the end of the trading session or very close to it. About 2 pm Eastern time, we're

    19. going to we're going to find out a little bit more about what's going on.

    20. >> Well, how about about what's going on with uh the VIX Pete andor Vixen? But today it's probably more about the VIX than the Vixen.

    21. >> Yep. I would say that that's probably true, John. You know, we we start off the the measure early on and we're sitting there in the 18s and the next thing you know it just absolutely skyrockets. We did get over 20 for a moment. We're pushing on 20. We're anywhere between 20 and call it 1975 or something like that. So yeah, uh and all

    22. for the right reasons, right? I mean, we we just put out some of the reasons of what's going on and what's hitting the markets a little bit. Well, those are the reasons why that volatility index is going up there. There's a lot of unanswered things right now, and I think it's uh it it probably makes as clear a sense as it has in a long time. The fact

    23. of where it is today, uh makes a heck of a lot of sense. We're darn near almost a 1% move, which would mean for the S&P that would mean about a 16. But you know what? There's a lot more to it than just that. There is the emotional side as well, and that's what's getting popped up pretty strong today, John.

    24. Well, let's do a little prediction market, Pete. Um, >> despite what Pete accurately described as far as the movement of the uh S&P 500, which is what the VIX is, that's the uh uh the actual as well as the predicted uh or the exttrinsic part of

    25. that estimate. Um, let's take a look, Pete, at prediction market, which has come down by some 32% year-over-year in terms of a recession. This is according to Kelsey. And as you guys see right there on the screen, Kelshi is saying

    26. recession this year, 9% chance. So, that's not terribly uh uh good odds if you're somebody rooting for recession, is it, Pete?

    27. >> No, it's not. And it's it's interesting to see now. Is there a lot of of activity on this thing, you know? I I don't really know. I mean, it doesn't look like it's unbelievable, but what almost 3 million, John? Something like that going after this thing. So, yeah, makes it pretty interesting. It's a fun thing to kick around a little bit about,

    28. but uh you know, as I've said on a few occasions in the past, and I'm not trying to be too light on this whole thing, but shoot, we've had some recessions where people didn't even know we were in recession. So, you know, it's a lot different than a depression.

    29. That's the that's the main thing here.

    30. >> Yeah, that's right. A recession's when your neighbor loses his job or her job, and a depression is when you lose your job.

    31. >> All right, Pete. Um, let's do one more time immersed because in the venture corner today, we're going to tell you again about immersed. I'm gonna make sure that uh you guys understand that this AR VR um powered uh uh software is

    32. incredible.

    33. I mean, it's already got 1.5 million users and more of their software, Pete, and it powers um competitors gear as well. Now, the gear that they produce with these um immersed uh glasses, I'll call them Pete, rather than goggles,

    34. because they're really not like the Apple goggles. They're not like the Oculus either. They are much more like what I saw when I was using them at the New York Stock Exchange, Pete. They were much more like, think of Oakley blades or something like that. smaller,

    35. lighter. Um, and yet you're able to project onto those uh uh blades, if you will, onto this immersed headset uh up to 10 screens. I mean, you could watch a instead of just being out at circa, you know what's behind me on the screen,

    36. instead of being there, you could be uh projecting a 20 foot uh jumbotron through those glasses. So, you're not just watching whatever your television is. you could be watching that uh Netflix episode or Landman or whatever

    37. on a screen as big as your view at that particular day. So, it's pretty amazing technology that Immersed has put together. Now, um it's great for traders, of course, because you go on the road and you don't have your three screen setup, you could do that with the

    38. these uh glasses. They've raised $ 38 million from over 10,000 investors and uh the company is positioned for an IPO, but that doesn't mean it's immediate or anything, folks. But obviously, the

    39. better they do with the uh deployment of these, the closer it gets. So, right now, uh we anticipate that there will be a new visor expected in Q4 2026. Now, just like people expect Apple to come up

    40. with something new in September of this year, does it always happen on exactly that time frame? No. But it's fairly predictable that something could be coming our way from Immersed in the fourth quarter. And they are doing a funding round right now that actually ends on July 30th, which happens to be

    41. tomorrow.

    42. >> So, we'd encourage you guys to check out Immersed. Jared has again put it up on the screen for you. It's fabulous technology and I think you guys uh would be wise to at least understand what it's all about and some of you will probably

    43. elect to do as we have done and uh acquire some shares and we are paid uh consultants to the company and we always want to disclose that to you. All right, Pete, let's dive into a few stocks.

    44. Yeah, like GEC, which is GE Healthcare Technology.

    45. Basically, second quarter results spectacularly beat anticipated results. And they didn't exactly uh uh they weren't shy about the guidance going forward either, Pete.

    46. >> No, these guys were uh pretty excited about what they were able to do. Look at that reaction. The reaction makes all the sense in the world, John. They not only crushed the earnings, they also beat on the revenue, but they had strong growth. They had momentum. They had everything going in their, you know, direction, record organic growth as

    47. well. They reaffirmed the uh the EPS for the guide that they've got very strong.

    48. They did have one thing that didn't seem to affect anybody, which was the change in CFO, which sometimes can be a big deal. Um, in this particular case, didn't seem to be. just walked away and then now somebody already is in place but stock up about what 12% something close to that John. Yeah, I would say GE

    49. healthcare had about as good a quarter as they could and that's another one as we talk about these earnings just how strong things really are and how the economy actually has been humming along a lot better than a lot of people have tried to tell us.

    50. Well, let's jump over to Garmin, Pete, because back in the day, Garmin used to produce a little device that you'd plug into your cigarette lighter, for instance, and it was GPS. And then all of a sudden, car manufacturers started building that into their cars. And uh

    51. iPhones were out there with, you know, Google maps and ways and a whole bunch of other stuff. So, you would think that this company would get crushed, but they pivot and they get into health care and things like that, Pete. So, what do I

    52. mean by that? Well, the health and fitness uh market is estimated at 45 to 48 billion dollar. And these guys, anybody who's running around with an Apple Watch, Pete, yeah, that's cool.

    53. But what do you see? Most of the triathletes and so forth and marathoners running with a Garmin watch. So they are spectacularly uh in the lead right now. You've got Fitbit, you've got Apple, you've got Garmin, and Garmin, I would say, Pete,

    54. is one of the highest thought of products in this space. And again, it's not just about maps anymore. Now it's about um you know your health and exactly how many miles did you log? How how was your sleep? Everything. These are pretty spectacular devices and

    55. Garmin moving higher after reporting some strong earnings because of that.

    56. >> Well, and as you said spectacular. How about the earnings being spectacular?

    57. Yes, they were strong. They were 281.

    58. They were looking for 229. I'd say they crushed that, John. I'd say that's a pretty good size beat. They beat on the revenue as well. They've made some acquisitions. They're in the right place at the right time. People seem to be very, like you were saying, they've kind of transformed themselves just right before our very eyes and done a really,

    59. really unbelievable job. Oh, by the way, 52- week highs that was hit today off that huge jump to the upside, up about 17% as we speak right now. Hit 299, up about 46% year to date. So, Garmin is uh not just somebody who's who's all of a sudden had a great earnings. They've had

    60. some great earnings in the past as well and that's why this stock is zooming the way it is. That's why the stock is hitting 52- week highs. These numbers and I think with the addition of some of the acquisitions that they they have and you were talking about this, John, the US health and fitness clubs, they're estimated at 45 to 48 billion. I would

    61. say that Garmin is sitting in a really really great spot right now. And I I like this. I don't think this is the end for them. I think that this is um still just the early stages for what they really could do into the future. So really an impressive uh quarter for Garmin.

    62. >> Yeah, I mean you've got things like aura rings and uh other rings as well um that give you a lot about your sleep and your heartbeat and so forth um when you're under stress and all that sort of thing.

    63. But uh Garmin is really one that gives you an awful lot of data. Um, especially once you team it up with, you know, your computer at home, not just what's on the watch, uh, when you're running around.

    64. All right, Pete. Uh, Lennux International. Now, what are these guys?

    65. Climate solutions, they say. Okay, what kind of solution? Air conditioning. You know, we we talked about it and this part of it isn't funny. But, um, the, uh, in Europe, Pete, every summer more people die. Look it up, folks. and I'll give you your money back if you if I'm

    66. wrong. Um, more people die in Europe every summer from heat than die in the United States from gunshots. Look it up.

    67. But, uh, these guys, Lennox, is one of the many places like train air conditioning and all that kind of stuff.

    68. They're one of the folks that really help, uh, us survive because again, people actually do die when it gets really, really hot. Well, Linux makes products for heating your home, for cooling your home, and as you might imagine, for data centers, Pete. So,

    69. home comfort for sure, but also uh extend that over to what else needs to get cooled, Pete.

    70. >> Yeah, it's pretty interesting, John.

    71. Unfortunately, there you go.

    72. Unfortunately, they also uh they missed on the expectations for revenue. uh they were in line with earnings. So they didn't have they were one of the very few that just did not have the right numbers for people uh to react the way they would probably have liked to have seen them react. It was all the way down

    73. to 432. It's 52- week lows unfortunately. So that not so great.

    74. >> Um they talked about their guidance which they lowered. So that wasn't so great. Um you talked about the home comfort that was down about 7% the revenue for that. They did have some on the other side of that though that climate solutions you were talking about the rev rev was up about 24%. That was good. But the problem was they just

    75. didn't quite give what people really needed. And obviously anytime when your guidance is not there we we talk about this all the time. If it's not there that's always going to be a problem that people don't care what really happened in the previous quarter. They want to know what's going to happen in the next quarters to come. And unfortunately for Lennox they just aren't doing it right

    76. now. And I don't know what's going to help fix it, but certainly you looked at that chart and what this stock looks like right now is hitting sitting there at those 52- week lows. Not good right now for Lennux, John.

    77. >> And think of this, folks. Um, for large appliances, which you know, when we're talking about an air conditioner for your home, could be anything from uh, and I'm not talking about window air conditioning, but if it's central and so forth, you're probably looking, Pete, at somewhere between four and $20,000.

    78. >> Oh, yeah.

    79. >> So, these are big purchases. It's like a very fancy uh range or a fridge. And they're they're uh durable. They are not uh you know uh things that you just say oh yeah I think I'll just upgrade right now especially when interest rates are higher interest rates come down these

    80. guys would benefit and then they'd bounce nicely I think off that 52- week low that Pete talked about let's hit some data centers Pete with Verdive VRT because they are under pressure despite a solid earnings print you know they

    81. expected 143 they posted did 152. That's a big plus. Revenue up 24% year-over-year. But how is the outlook, Pete, going forward? Was that what people were focused on with these data centers?

    82. >> You know what I would normally say?

    83. Yeah. Although, you know, John, what I was looking at, they did raise their fullear outlook. So, that wasn't really the the culprit this time. In this particular situation, John, I think it had a lot more to do. If you take that chart and go back a little bit further, um, what I think is interesting is it may might have made too big of a run

    84. into this whole thing to extend it any further. They would have had to give a little bit more. Yes, they beat on their earnings. Yes, they beat on the revenue.

    85. The revenue was actually up 24% year-over-year. They talked about some strong cash flows. They talked about the AI and the data centers and all the things that you were talking about, John. Demand is there remains really high. So, I was just kind of digging around just kind of trying to figure out, well, what's the what's the deal?

    86. Well, the stock was up 56% year to date coming into today and unfortunately for Verdive, they just couldn't quite give them enough to to get them to to buy again and get even further. They dropped what about 14 15% today, something like that, John. And I think I think a lot of that has to do with this previous runup

    87. that we have seen. But very interesting to see what they were able to accomplish there. There's still I mean when you look at those numbers and you look at the outlook you could say you know what maybe this is an opportunity and maybe it is but I'd sure like to see some unusual options come in there to tell us yeah uh the big boys want in and we

    88. haven't seen that yet but it's early.

    89. It's just today.

    90. >> All right. Well, um, let's take a look at a little sports video, Pete, because we when we're able to, we love giving you guys some, uh, interesting sports videos. And, uh, this gentleman, um, who is an absolute beast, and Pete called it

    91. when he was in college, Will Anderson Jr. Um, and what a great young man. And this is what he had to say, Pete, after he signed a $150 [laughter] million deal. Let's give it a look and a listen.

    92. >> Thank you, everybody, for coming. I appreciate it. [clears throat] Thank you, Jesus. Jesus, I owe all I am to you. Thank you for blessing me and keeping me and holding me together all these years. Without you, I am nothing.

    93. You have truly been gracious and loving to me. I love you, and I will always glorify your name. Now all the glory to God who is able through his mighty power at work within us to accomplish infinitely more than we can more than we might ask or think. To my spiritual [music] family, thank you for the prayers and keeping me grounded in the word and never forgetting and never letting me forget how powerful God is

    94. and that he always has my back and is always standing on the front line with me. Thank you to every little kid, teenager, boy or girl, young adult.

    95. Don't be scared to be different. [music] Rise above the expectations of what society wants you to be. With God, everything is possible. You are not what this world wants you to be, but everything God has called you to be.

    96. Walk in your purpose [music] and your light, however that may look, and let nothing stop you. You are called. You are chosen. You are ordained. You are godly and holy. And most of all, you are loved. Whatever God has planned for you shall come to pass. Held held high always. Be bold. [music] Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or discouraged, for your Lord your God is with you wherever you go. Thank you.

    97. >> Wow.

    98. >> Thank you everybody.

    99. >> Love it. You gotta love it.

    100. >> Yep. powerful speech and 642 245 Pete out of uh the University of Alabama.

    101. >> Alabama >> and uh oh my gosh, was was he a force there? And is he a force with the Houston Texans, Pete?

    102. >> And they like this kid so much that uh they decide, you know what, here you go.

    103. Here's a three-year $150 million contract extension with the large portion of that guarantee. Just amazing, Pete.

    104. >> It is amazing. It's amazing the linebackers are getting paid what they're getting paid. I'm happy for every single one of them, especially Will Anderson, who I've watched when he was in college at Alabama and thought, "Wow, this kid, he just needs to get a little bit more weight on him." Well, he got the weight on him and he's [laughter] the be he's arguably one of,

    105. if not the best linebacker right now in the NFL. And I think that that money right there in front of you shows exactly what they think of him as well.

    106. So, great young man, unbelievable football player. And I'll tell you what, Alabama has had a nice little pipeline out there to Houston, too. So, [laughter] they're they figured out how good those linebackers are. Maybe a tight end or two, a defensive lineman or so, but whatever. I mean, they they just put out

    107. a lot of talent. Speaking of talent, John, let's go to a little college football. Ohio State. Now, Ohio State just inked a deal with JP Morgan, which is just amazing to me. And I I thought it was fun because heck, this goes right into football and finance, right? When we when we talk about that, they've got

    108. these jersey patch patches that they put on, right? It's going to be a big thing here for JP Morgan. 36. All of Ohio State's 36 sports teams will have that patch. Wherever they are, they're going to have the patch. And it's a $17

    109. million a year deal that they put out there for for the school of of Ohio State. Just un unbelievable to see what they're doing, John. And you know what?

    110. They already just finished out the ratings for the 2027 class recruits, and that can be flexed around a lot, but they're they're top six, which is not surprising. It seems like they will get the top wide receivers, it seems, every single year at Ohio State. And they just just send them into the pros, man. Those guys are already they're damn near ready

    111. to go before they get to Ohio State. I mean, that's how good some of these young men are. So, um it's an amazing deal, John. Are we going to see more of these kind of deals? I mean, this is this just the start of this and is it turning college football into NASCAR or college sports into NASCAR?

    112. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Just like it is with the NBA, Pete. Absolutely. And um you know, they're going to help these kids out with the NIL as well.

    113. >> Um which probably means that you know, when a kid signs for you know, three million, $4 million, man or woman, um that maybe JP Morgan will be out there saying, "Hey, you need a little help managing that money? We'll put you in some safe stuff so that when you're 50,

    114. you guys have, you know, multiples of that instead of just blowing it all on cars and watches and things like that.

    115. >> Uh so, uh I I think it's going to happen more and more, Pete. And >> I won't be surprised if uh because I doubt if this is exclusive. If I'm JP Morgan, $17 million. Shoot, that's two Super Bowl commercials for gosh sakes.

    116. Um, with with that patch on the uniform, as often as uh Ohio State is on TV and as often as they're in championship games, is that patch going to pay multiples of that 17 million?

    117. Absolutely. I think it is, Pete. So, yeah, congratulations, Ohio State.

    118. >> Yep. Ohio State and and a smart move, I think, by JP Morgan, Jamie Diamond, and all the rest. So, sticking with that, just because it's all going on at the same time, John, the Big 10 media day thing and the media deal is going on.

    119. Um, it's interesting because I didn't think that this was the direction that the Big 10 wanted to go, but they do.

    120. And then you look at the SEC and some of the other major conferences, they don't really want to do it. And I'm talking about the the rest of them all want a 16 team playoff. And for whatever reason, the Big 10 is really pushing hard for 2014 playoff, John. And they they're kind of coming down to the wire whether

    121. or not that's going to be able to happen in 26 or 27 or whatever because those things have to be set up. But it's really interesting, I think, to see is this another money grab? I mean, is that is that the direction they're going? Is the revenue that they're going to get from this whole thing? and I I can't quite figure it out, but you know, it was just yesterday you and I were

    122. talking about the University of Michigan in Willingham, the new head football coach there, talking about a salary cap to also talking about $50 million rosters in college football. And he did say rosters. So, interesting to see what's going on. I mean, college football is not what it once was. And in

    123. some ways, in a lot of ways, that's great. It's great for the kids and getting all this money. Um, but it is changing the game, John, especially with the portal and everything else. So, I I'm just curious, what do you what do you think as far as those playoffs, though? Should they should they be extended to 24? Um, and then we don't

    124. have to hear from Notre Dame ever again.

    125. [laughter] Yeah. Uh, you know, as I would be okay with 24, Pete, if they cut a game out of the regular season.

    126. >> Yeah. um you can't just lump all these extra games um you know on top of these athletes because they're already pretty spent at the end of a a grueling schedule and then all of a sudden they got to do the Big 10 championship game

    127. and then the winner and perhaps even the loser of that game go on to this 24 team uh you know uh playoff. I think it's and granted if you're the the top team or teams um you might get a buy, but all

    128. the other guys, man, they're they're playing more games than the pros by the time you get through the whole thing, Pete.

    129. >> And I do understand that they're getting paid like pros now. Not quite as much money, but they're nonetheless getting paid. But I think it's uh too much >> too much. Um, but like you said, the greed is going to be there and the Big 10's right at the front and center of it

    130. wanting 24 games when SEC and everybody else seems pretty comfortable with a much lower number.

    131. >> Yeah. I It's a matter of, you know, those those number of games and you're a younger person or whatever. Um, in a lot of ways, it it's going to affect you even more. And if if you're actually in school [laughter] and going to classes, everything else, I mean, it's it's, you know, it it just

    132. stacks one more thing on top of you or whatever. So, I don't know. There's a I know people can make good arguments and bad arguments about all of this various stuff. But, uh, it just seems to me that they are really really trying so hard on the money side of things that they they're blinded by everything else. But I guess, you know, 24 teams, it probably

    133. will happen and it probably will happen in the not too distant future. It just might not happen right away, but it will happen at some point in time.

    134. >> Well, uh, let's hit one more, Pete, just because I thought, uh, this one, you know, if you don't already know it, folks, Pete and John love Caitlyn Clark.

    135. Um, and um, I just think she's a great example for young kids, boys and girls, obviously, particularly girls, because she's a breakthrough athlete in the WNBA.

    136. >> Um, I saw a video of her, Pete, this week making 50 of 54 three-point shots.

    137. Um, amazing, amazing. I mean, that's Steph Curry kind of numbers right there.

    138. And there's not another woman in the WNBA that can do that. And there's a few that can't even make a layup. Um, but how about the All-Star game? Take a look at this graphic, folks. Because in the All-Star game, NBA All-Star, they drew 15,900

    139. people. Live gate. That's not TV, of course, that's live gate. How many went to the WNBA All-Star game in Chicago, Pete? almost 20,000.

    140. And uh there's Caitlyn doing her uh Michael Jordan right there, Pete. But it's it's just uh amazing that now are the ticket prices higher for the NBA.

    141. Yeah, but they're higher because people will pay it apparently. That arena that they played in, Pete, the Intuitit Dome, where the NBA played their all-star game, it usually holds about 18,500.

    142. >> But the NBA claims that they took 3,000 seats away for various production in quotes facilities in the arena. Okay.

    143. Hard to believe that you took away 3,000 seats with that or whatever, but okay.

    144. I'll go there with you. Um, but I think that uh when you've got an athlete like uh Caitlyn Clark, um if you look at last year's All-Star game, Pete, >> it wasn't drawing 19,000. For all the people that say I'm chasing Jordan and

    145. so forth, uh first of all, nobody's catching Jordan in particular some WNBA player who can't make a layup. But um Caitlyn Clark never says that. She never says, "I'm the face of the league." She never says, "I'm Chasing Jordan," or

    146. anything else. She loves the game. She's paid well to play as well as she plays.

    147. And just like Steph Curry, she shoots a ton before every game and in practice every week. And that's how you get to be her level of good. And that's why people in Chicago filled the arena. It's [clears throat] also not too far from

    148. Indiana, Pete. uh so people could drive up for the day and go see Kaitlyn Clark play in the All-Star game. So just thought tip of the hat to her for that.

    149. >> Yeah. And the WNBA. I mean that's it's impressive that they were able to get those kind of numbers versus the NBA. I mean just they can say what they want in the NBA, but that [laughter] they didn't they didn't shift around those 3,000 seats.

    150. >> No, >> not a thanks for joining us today, folks. Pete and I will be back tomorrow at 1 PM Eastern time. We'll be bringing you probably another uh as the what is that? Uh uh those cereals that are on

    151. TV, Pete. Um as the world turns and so forth in our case is as the heartbeat market continues, you know, up one day big, down the next day big, up one day big, down the next day big. So we're down big today. likelihood that we're up

    152. big tomorrow. We'll see. Tune in at 1 pm tomorrow to find out.

    153. Heat. Heat.

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